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08-29-2008, 10:26 AM
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Who is using a non-selectable front locker on a street vehicle, and what are your experiences?
When an ARB is unlocked is it completely open or a limited slip?
When an ARB is locked is it like a spool or a non-selectable locker?
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08-29-2008, 11:32 AM
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Jim...I have the ARB in the rear of my AMC20...along with solid axles.
When unlocked...it is totally unlocked...totally open.
When you hit that switch and the air pressurizes it...it's LOCKED....just like a spool....and no clicking...
I have a Detroit Tru-Trak in the front of my D30. Quite happy with it....basically it's a limited slip but does not use plates...it has gears...no special friction additive needed. Very well manored on the street if I have the hubs locked....you almost can't tell it's there...on the trail, if I get any slip, I just need to apply a 'little' brake and any slipping more or less goes away.
I'm building up a flat top D44 (at the rate I'm going it's going to take a year)...I plan to put a full Detroit in it with locking hubs. But I 'might' go ARB if the price difference is not too much and skip the locking hubs.
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08-29-2008, 01:00 PM
|  | Mud in my Veins | | Join Date: Apr 2000 Location: Winston-Salem, NC
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lou  Who is using a non-selectable front locker on a street vehicle, and what are your experiences? | Define "street vehicle" 
I have a Detroit EZ (lunchbox) in the D30 w/ alloys & 297x joints... Zero issues when the hubs are unlocked on the road. OTOH, anything over 45-50mph is  SCARY! (not inherently a "locker" issue  )
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08-29-2008, 01:02 PM
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My Aussie is reasonable on the road, but you know it is there. Powering through corners the front gets tight and when it comes to Icy roads I contemplate taking it out every year. It is not terrible, but it gets dicey on ice covered roads, but I also run MT tires so,,,, that could be as much the problem.
When I put together the HP 44 for the TJ I want to put a ARB in but the price makes it tough.
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08-29-2008, 04:44 PM
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In the case at hand, it means licensed and insured for street driving, and not a trailer queen, although it does get trailered to distant events. It gets maybe 800 street miles and 200 trail miles a year, but the street miles include plowing snow.
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08-29-2008, 11:47 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lou Who is using a non-selectable front locker on a street vehicle, and what are your experiences?
When an ARB is unlocked is it completely open or a limited slip?
When an ARB is locked is it like a spool or a non-selectable locker? | Put lockouts on the hubs and you won't care what type locker you have in the front. Could be a cost savings. 
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08-30-2008, 12:50 AM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lou In the case at hand, it means licensed and insured for street driving, and not a trailer queen, although it does get trailered to distant events. It gets maybe 800 street miles and 200 trail miles a year, but the street miles include plowing snow. | Licensed = check
Insured = check
200 trail miles = check
800 street miles = I'm *way* too smart for that  |
08-30-2008, 01:37 PM
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800 street miles = I'm *way* too smart for that
| It's been about 5 1/2 years (WOW, time flies!) since I finished the restoration, and the new speedometer shows 3900 something, so I guess that is an exaggeration. Sorry, Man. 
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08-30-2008, 11:05 PM
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Wow.... Even my junk (both of them) get 1,500 to 2,000 miles per year on them each, the Scrambler may be a little less (no snow plowing involved). Maybe that is because I just don't want to drive the work truck on weekends unless A/C is required.
Put on some locking hubs and then just use a lunchbox locker in the front. Even better if you twin stick the transfer case. Trust me you will enjoy the difference after you get used to it.
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08-31-2008, 02:50 PM
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Originally Posted by Jim_Lou It's been about 5 1/2 years (WOW, time flies!) since I finished the restoration, and the new speedometer shows 3900 something, so I guess that is an exaggeration. Sorry, Man. |
JL... *I'M* way to smart to try 800 street miles in the Moss per year. Maybe with some suspension DE-tuning, a set of radials, and someone else's fuel...
Wasn't finding fault in your calculations!
I agree... lunchbox locker, unlock the hubs and even though it does ZERO for you on the street (unless your navigating a "technical" section at the house and need 2low)... twinsticks (hey, why not? you've got all the other goodies )
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