Waggy springs on a CJ7?

[sourpwr]

I realize that this is so 2003, but I have a few questions for those of you who have done this.

I have an 84 CJ7 currently SUA with RE4.5 springs and 36 Iroks. I am installing a Crossedup offroad 609 front and 14 bolt (srw housing, drw hubs for 64" wms) in the rear. Both axles will be about 64" wms. While I am at it, I intend to SOA and wanted to push the wheelbase out to about 100" but would like to keep is as low as possible. I'm partial to 39.5" Iroks for my next tires.

I had originally thought about using Waggys fronts in the front with YJ rears for the rear. I figured that I could get about a 4" stretch with offseat spring perches. However, when I put my used YJ rears next to the used front waggys, it looked like the waggys had about a 2" taller arch.

So here are my questions --

What will it take on the front of the CJ to run the waggys? (I'm already running 2.5" wide front springs.) Will turning the front shakle hanger around so that it points forward be enough to run the waggy springs?

If I wanted to run waggy fronts in the rear, do I have to do anything special with the spring/shackle hangers? I realize that cutting the tub will be required.

Should I expect 2" of lift over stock YJ springs?

Has anyone here used the JC Whittney waggys and do you have comments?

Any other recommendations to get a couple more inches of wheelbase, in a SOA configuration, without having to completely re-work the suspension?

For those that did go the waggy route, would you do it again?

I suppose that another option would be custom spings with offset pins. Does anyone here have first hand experience with custom spring manufacturers?

-- Thanks for the help,
Mike

[Crazy Eddie]

Originally Posted by sourpwr

Any other recommendations to get a couple more inches of wheelbase, in a SOA configuration, without having to completely re-work the suspension?

Hey Mike,
For just a couple extra inches I used M.O.R.E. spring perches. They have 3 spring pin holes in them(centered, and 1" each way) so you can push each axle out 1". That gets you 2 extra inches and for a close to stock wheelbase jeep like mine(96") it helps with clearance too.
As far as tires go Mike I've never been that impressed with Iroks. I guess they're good out west on pure rock but around here Boggers, SX's and TSL's work a lot better. I heard Interco is making 42" SX's now...that'd be the ticket!!
Whatever you do I can't wait to see it!! You got to get down and wheel with us again soon, like GroundHog's Day at Haspin.
Good luck man!
Aaron.

[Rio_Grande]

I actually used to know the answer to this but after looking at the 5 for 3 years now I have forgotten what I figured out and how to do it but I have a set of waggie springs in the pile of collected parts for the 5. For some reason I thought the waggie fronts get flipped around and go on the rear,,,,, But again I don't remember..

[sourpwr]

Originally Posted by Crazy Eddie

Hey Mike,
For just a couple extra inches I used M.O.R.E. spring perches.

I do have "MORE" like spring perches for front and back. I would like to get about 4 inches total. So I figured I would need something else to go with the spring perches.

Jeff, what I have figured out is that the offset center pin in the waggy springs allows you to either maintain approximately stock, may be off by 1/2" depending on CJ/YJ or push the axle about 2" out from stock. This is dependent upon whether you mount the short side or the long side facing the center of the jeep.

Any other comments or experience with waggy springs?

-- mike

[WILL]

Seems like Jeff (H8Monday) used waggy springs with them kicked out at the back in one version of his jeep. Might look through some of his old posts too.