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Old 08-22-2007, 10:46 PM
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I've done three distributors in the last two months for guys on the JU board...
The reason I mention these three in particular is because they all purchased new V-8 distributor gears.

To me, these look like crappy Crown gears, but I don't know where BullTear gets them.

All three of the 'New' gears have had the gear roll pin holes off on two axis planes.
Off center, and drilled at an angle.

This is frustrating for a guy with a machine shop set up to work on distributors, but it's normally an impasse for the amateur builder!

If you are going to need a V-8 distributor gear in the near future, I'd would think long and hard before I ordered mine from BullTear...
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Hummm...

Here's what John said in 2002:
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We have gears made in Spain. Crown used these suppliers but switched to a cheaper for gears. These Spaniard gears are the best hardened ever made for a AMC V8. They are 4340 hardened set! Those that are wasting gears should read up on these things.
However in 2007 I found this:2007 Roll Pin Problem
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Old 08-23-2007, 08:04 AM
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I can vouch for hard!
These things don't drill for crap!
I was beginning to think I'd have to break out the EDM to get through it!

They are doing things kind of stupid...
The easiest to replace gear (Distributor) should be the SOFTER gear, or the hardened gear should only be sold in sets containing the cam gear and distributor gear.

Putting a hardened distributor gear on a soft cam gear is asking for trouble...
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You'll likely get no sympathy from him (even though it IS a "customer service" issue), given the "tar & feather" job handed to him here a few years back...
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Old 08-23-2007, 03:12 PM
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What sympathy?
What tar and feather?

I'm missing something (AGAIN ) but that's nothing new...
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The so called 'Owner' (some guy calling himself 'Jeepsr4ever') is busy with personal attacks on JU instead of fessing up to the problem and dealing with it.

I have time of now from AirRide, and we sure could use a source of parts with some quality control...
The question is do I want that much responsibility at this stage in my life?...

Nope! I'm lazy.
I'm just going to complain about it like the rest of the general population!
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I guess BullTear is a sponsor over there at JU...
I'm being threatened with banishment for bringing the gear problem to light...

JU is more or less a 'Good Ole Boys' club.
Knowledge, ability, and the willingness to help and share isn't enough...
If you don't kiss ass with the moderators (Rejects that couldn't cut it here for the most part) you are 'Bad & Evil'...

I'm 'Full of BS and arugumentitave'...
Well, argumentative, I'll agree with.
If I see something wrong I'll arugue the point...
If the guy wants to get personal, I'll get personal right along with him!

Full of BS... that would be the guys that can't get simple questions right and pass along crap as fact...

The moderators over there get pissed off when a new guy asked something that he should have done a search for...

Lot's of questions are answered with nothing but 'FSM'.
If the guy doesn't know what lube to put in his differentials, how the heck is he going to know what 'FSM' means?

I also get reamed regularly because my answers are TOO COMPLETE!
Can you believe that?!
Too good of an answer gets you kicked like a soccer ball! And by the moderators no less!

Anyway, the bull tear weenie said he's had no complaints about any of his products, especally the gears...
Then one of his 'Supporters' pops up and says he had problems, but bulltear fixed it...
Then the 'Owner' says that he's replaced every gear that someone has complained about....
I pointed out he said there were NO complaints...
Now I'm in hot water. Again.
Oh well, such is life.
Good thing this crap rolls off my back like water off a duck!
(Has something to do with having a real life...)
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You crossed the line as usual. You took what Caver Dave said here and repeated it over there after you admitted you knew nothing about it.

From JU board:
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Didn't you get a 'tar and feathering' over at ORC forum about doing this same thing a few years ago?
Isn't that why you came over here to JU?
Or am I thinking of something else you did to get tarred & feathered at ORC?

Anyway, your credibility is zero over there, and should be sinking fast here if people are paying attention...
You shot your self again by ignoring the problem, I don't have any sympathy for you...
The JU moderator’s response (next post) was:
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JYG this kind of constant argumentitive BS will not be tolerated.
Not exactly as you represented it.


I led a protest over jeepsr4ever and his company Bulltear because of his business practices and his spamming this board with his “products”. He left the sbc section anyway, shortly after challenges over his oil specially formulated for AMC engines.

You were wrong in that his “credibility is zero” over here. There are those who support him.

As far as his bad gears, I can make a pretty good guess what’s going on. Manufacturers don’t typically test every item in a run of something like this. They take a sample size and test it. They assume the sample size is representative of the whole. If the sample shows too high a reject rate, rather than sort the good ones from the bad, they just throw the entire run in a box and sell it. It’s up to the buyer to sort them out or do whatever with them.

A lot of people buy these up and don’t want to go through the sort process so they just sell them the way they are and if you get a bad one and IF you contact them, they will replace it. The problem is that, in addition to your frustration determining it to be bad and the delay waiting for a replacement, you have to pay the return postage as many times as it takes to get a good part. This practice is very common on ebay especially with electronic and computer products.

My guess is this is exactly what Bulltear did with these gears and jyg is correct, you don’t want a super hard distributor gear mated with your stock cam distributor drive gear.
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So why bother mail ordering from Bull tear anyway? I got mine overnight, for free (no shipping), from Oreilly's. It may be a better or lesser quality part, but has worked fine and if it had been wrong, I simply would have returned it and got another one overnight. Is there a supply issue somewhere that forces folks to go to Bulltear?
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My point exactly, but I think someone over there is getting some 'Sponsorship' so he doesn't like it when you bring his 'Sponsors' to task...
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