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Old 09-28-2003, 10:08 PM
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Default Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

My '88 XJ, 4 door only has lap belts in the rear seat and I was wondering if anyone on here has swapped the rear lap belts out with newer XJ shoulder belts? My little Jeepers are getting bigger and I'd like to have the shoulder belts for them instead of just the lap belts...their car seats make them safer now but my oldest is about to do away with the booster seat he uses.

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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

Looked into the same thing myself for my little girl, hate her riding back there. I don't think it would be all that hard if you had the time, materials and tools. The main thing with building the mounting points would be to reinforce them with an added plate so they don't tear out of the sheetmetal. Weld in would be ideal.

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Old 09-29-2003, 09:16 AM
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Brian.... I like the idea of fabbing your own. Why not look into a small 5 point harness instead of a shoulder belt? BTW... the move went great. got here in one piece. The trip took 6.5 hours but I was in a convoy of about 9 Jeeps in middle VA. They were going on a trail run and gave me an escort for about 50 miles.....
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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

AJ, have you actually looked into one of the newer models to see how different the mounting is for the belts? I'm going to try to get by a scrap yard this week and see if I can find a newer XJ with the belts in place. I'd like to see the difference. Let me know if you happen to see one.

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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

I haven't really looked at how the newer ones mount. You know I almost remember someone telling me that the mounting points was actually already on their XJ, but they still had lap belts. Can't remember what year of XJ that was on but that would seem kinda stupid. Not unless Jeep just left it that way because they weren't mandatory at the time or not economical?

How about a go cart seat or kids racing seat and a full roll cage? YEAH!
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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

Yeah, as Ben mentioned above....racing harnesses...thing is, I need room for three people in the back. Racing seats are probably not that cheap either.. I'll look in the parking lot at a few XJs while I'm at work today...hope nobady sees me snooping in the Jeeps... [img]images/graemlins/blush.gif[/img]
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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder belts..

There is actually a retro-fit kit from Jeep to install the upper belt hardpoint etc... I dont remember the kit number, but I did find it in a google search a while back. Problem was none of the dealers had them that were close. I was looking into the same conversion for my wife's jeep, and spoke with a friend that was part of the teams that had to retrofit some 88/89 ones to look like the new 90's with the shoulder belts for advertising and shows, and he said they were easy to convert. the TSB for it was 235690.

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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder bel

i'll call my best-buddy, best-pal, parts-manager at the jeep dealer and see if those kit's pronto is talking about are still available. if he dosn't have one, he can locate it, and have it shiped to lumberton, from there i can get it dirt cheap! i'll chime in tonight and let you know!

if all else fails...get some seats out of the back of an old BRAT pickup. they'd be cheap, and your little boy would think he's in a video game!!!
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Default Re: Want to convert rear lap belts to shoulder bel

Sounds great Mark, let me know what you find. AJ, I peaked into a '96 XJ in the parking lot and noted where the mounts are at the roof and behind the seat on top of the wheel well area. It appears that the lap belt mount position is the same. When I get home, I'll look at mine and see what it looks like, (my head liner is gone so I have a good view).

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Hey Mark,

ANy word from your Jeep buddy on those seat belt sets?

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